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- Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:30:23 PDT
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- Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #226
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- Ham-Digital Digest Sun, 10 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 226
-
- Today's Topics:
- 44.x subnets
- How do I find my IP addr?
- New IP Address when Moving?
- NTS traffic
-
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-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: 10 Jul 1994 04:21:56 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 44.x subnets
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- A lot of people are subnetting network 44 by geography because we don't
- have a good solution in place for doing anything else. That doesn't
- mean that that kind of subnetting is a good thing - in fact, it's
- something you want to avoid unless you have no alternative.
-
- The network 44 addresses aren't Dewey decimal numbers; they're station
- addresses. Dividing them up into subnets should only be done when there
- is an advantage or a requirement to do so, and NOT because the division
- satisfies someone's desire for order, or systematicity, or political
- divisions, or whatever. There should be a compelling technical reason
- for the existence of a subnet division.
-
- How many of the regional subnets are connected by routers? How many are
- served by the SAME router? And why are those served by the same router
- then separate subnets?
-
- Subnetting: do it only when there's an advantage to it.
- - Brian
-
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-
- Date: 10 Jul 1994 04:28:43 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: How do I find my IP addr?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- AMPRNet IP address coordinators as of 15 Jun 1994
-
- Corrections and updates to brian@ucsd.edu.
-
- Note: the people listed here have volunteered to issue IP addresses for
- their areas. They are not paid to do this service; please understand
- that they are perfectly at ease to deal with coordination responses at
- a lower priority than the things that matter more, such as job and
- family. Please be patient when requesting an address.
-
- 44.002 Bob Meyer K6RTV Calif: Sacramento
- 44.004 Douglas Thom N6OYU Calif: Silicon Valley - San Francisco
- 44.006 Don Jacob WB5EKU Calif: Santa Barbara/Ventura
- 44.008 Brian Kantor WB6CYT Calif: San Diego
- 44.010 Terry Neal AA6TN Calif: Orange County
- 44.012 Steven King KD7RO Eastern Washington,Idaho
- 44.014 John Shalamskas KJ9U Hawaii & Pacific Islands
- 44.016 Jeff Angus WA6FWI Calif: Los Angeles - S F Valley
- 44.017 Dana Myers KK6JQ Calif: Antelope Valley/Kern County
- 44.018 Geoffrey Joy KE6QH Calif: San Bernardino & Riverside
- 44.020 Fred Schneider K0YUM Colorado: Northeast
- 44.022 John Stannard KL7JL Alaska
- 44.024 Dennis Goodwin KB7DZ Washington state: Western (Puget Sound)
- 44.026 Ron Henderson WA7TAS Oregon
- 44.028 Don Adkins KD5QN Texas: North
- 44.030 J Gary Bender WS5N New Mexico
- 44.032 Bdale Garbee N3EUA Colorado: Southeast
- 44.034 Jeff Austen K9JA Tennesee
- 44.036 Doug Drye KD4NC Georgia
- 44.038 Mike Abbott N4QXV South Carolina
- 44.040 Matt Simmons KG7MH Utah
- 44.042 John Martin KB5GGO Mississippi
- 44.044 Bob Wilson KA1XN Massachusetts: western
- 44.046 Stan Wilson AK0B Missouri
- 44.048 Jacques Kubley KA9FJS Indiana
- 44.050 Ron Breitwisch KC0OX Iowa
- 44.052 Gary Grebus K8LT New Hampshire
- 44.054 Ralph Stetson KD1R Vermont
- 44.056 Johnathan Vail N1DXG Eastern&Central Mass
- 44.058 Rich Clemens KB8AOB West Virginia
- 44.060 Howard Leadmon WB3FFV Maryland
- 44.062 Jim DeArras WA4ONG Virginia
- 44.062 Jon Gefaell KD4CQY Virginia (Charlottesville Area)
- 44.064 Dave Trulli NN2Z New Jersey: northern
- 44.065 Bob Applegate WA2ZZX New Jersey: southern
- 44.066 John DeGood NU3E Delaware
- 44.068.1-32 Bob Foxworth K2EUH New York: NYC & Long Island
- 44.068.64+ Bob Bellini N2IGU New York: ENY
- 44.069 Paul Gerwitz WA2WPI New York: WNY
- 44.070 Gary Sanders N8EMR Ohio
- 44.072 Ken Stritzel WA9AEK Chicago - North Ill.
- 44.073 Chuck Henderson WB9UUS South/Central Ill.
- 44.074 Mark Bitterlich WA3JPY North Carolina (east)
- 44.075 Charles Layno WB4WOR North Carolina (west)
- 44.076 Kurt Freiberger WB5BBW Texas: south
- 44.077 Rod Huckabay KA5EJX Texas: west
- 44.078 Joe Buswell K5JB Oklahoma
- 44.080 Doug Crompton WA3DSP Pennsylvania: eastern
- 44.082 Steven Elwood N7GXP Montana
- 44.084 Bob Ludtke K9MWM Colorado: Western
- 44.086 Reid Fletcher WB7CJO Wyoming
- 44.088 Bill Lyman N1NWP Connecticut
- 44.090 Mike Nickolaus NF0N Nebraska
- 44.092 Pat Davis KD9UU Wisconsin, upper peninsula Michigan
- 44.094 Gary Sharp WD0HEB Minnesota
- --- Andy Warner N0REN (Minn-Twin Cities area only)
- 44.096 Don Bennett K4NGC District of Columbia
- 44.098 Brian A. Lantz KO4KS Florida
- 44.100 Richard Elling KB4HB Alabama
- 44.102 Jeff King WB8WKA Michigan (lower peninsula)
- 44.104 Charles Greene W1CG Rhode Island
- 44.106 Allan B Dayton N0KFO Kentucky
- 44.108 James Dugal N5KNX Louisiana
- 44.110 Richard Duncan WD5B Arkansas
- 44.112 Bob Hoffman N3CVL Pennsylvania: western
- 44.114 Steven Elwood N7GXP N&S Dakota
- 44.116 Tom Kloos WS7S Oregon: NW&Portland,Vancouver WA
- 44.118 Carl Ingerson N1DXM Maine
- 44.120 unassigned
- 44.122 Dale Puckett K0HYD Kansas
- 44.123 Bernie McDonnell NP2W Virgin Islands
- 44.124 David Dodell WB7TPY Arizona
- 44.125.0-126 Earl Petersen KF7TI Southern Nevada
- 44.125.128-254 Bill Healy N8KHN Northern Nevada
- 44.126 Karl Wagner KP4QG Puerto Rico
- #
- # 44.128 is reserved for testing. Do not use for operational networks.
- # You may safely assume that any packets with 44.128 addresses are bogons
- # unless you are using them for some sort of testing
- #
- 44.128 TEST
- #
- # International subnet coordinators by country
- #
- 44.129 Japan JG1SLY Tak Kushida, JH3XCU Joly Kanbayashi
- 44.130 Germany DL4TA Ralf D Kloth
- 44.131 United Kingdom G1PLT Paul Taylor
- 44.132 Indonesia YB1BG Robby Soebiakto
- 44.133 Spain EA4DQX Jose Antonio Garcia. Madrid. (EA4DQX @ EA4DQX)
- 44.134 Italy I2KFX
- 44.135 Canada VE3JF Barry McLarnon
- 44.136 Australia VK2ZXQ John Tanner
- 44.137 Netherlands PA0GRI Gerard Van Der Grinten
- 44.138 Israel 4X1GP Peleg Lapid
- 44.139 Finland OH1MQK Matti Aarnio
- 44.140 Sweden SM0IES Lennart
- 44.141 Norway LA4JL Per Eftang
- 44.142 Switzerland HB9CAT Marco Zollinger
- 44.143 Austria OE1KDA Krzysztof Dabrowski
- 44.144 Belgium ON7LE
- 44.145 Denmark OZ1EUI
- 44.146 Phillipines DU1UJ Eddie Manolo
- 44.147 New Zealand ZL2BKC Wayne Knowles
- 44.148 Ecuador HC5K Ted
- 44.149 Hong Kong VS6YHJ Thomason FAN
- 44.150 Slovenija S53FK Iztok Saje
- 44.151 France FC1BQP Pierre-Francois Monet
- 44.152 Venezuela OA4KO/YV5 Luis Suarez
- 44.153 Argentina LU7ABF Pedro Converso
- 44.154 Greece SV1UY Demetre Valaris
- 44.155 Ireland EI9GL Paul Healy
- 44.156 Hungary HA8FN Laszlo Fidrich
- 44.157 Chile CE6EZB Raul Burgos
- 44.158 Portugal CT1DIA Artur Gomes
- 44.159 Thailand HS1JC Kunchit Charmaraman
- 44.160 South Africa ZS6BHD John
- 44.161 Luxembourg LX1YZ Erny Tontlinger
- 44.162 Cyprus 5B4TX C. Costis
- 44.163.16 Panama
- 44.163.32 Costa Rica
- 44.163.48 Nicaragua
- 44.163.64 Honduras
- 44.163.80 El Salvador
- 44.163.96 Guatamala
- 44.163.112 Belize
- 44.164.0-127 Surinam PZ2AC Otto Morroy
- 44.164.128-255 Trinidad&Tobago 9Y4UWI Dr. Patrick Hosein
- 44.165 Poland SP5WCA Andrzej K. Brandt
- 44.166 Korea unknown
- 44.167 India VU2LBW Lakshman ("Lucky") Bijanki
- 44.168 Taiwan BV5AF Bolon
- 44.169 Nigeria 5N0OBA Kunle
- 44.170 Croatia ?? Sinisa Novosel
- 44.171 Serbia (none)
- 44.172 Sri Lanka 4S7EF Ekendra
- 44.173 Mexico (pending)
- 44.174 Brazil PP5AQ Luiz F. Catalan
- 44.175 Cuba CO2JA Jose Amador
- 44.176 Turkey TA2LA Abdul-Hamid Sadka
- 44.177 Czech Republic OK2XTE Karel Odehnal
- 44.178 Russia RA3APW Karen Tadewosyan
- 44.179 Gibraltar ZB0D Jim Watt
- 44.180 Yugoslavia YT7MPB Miroslav Skoric
-
- 44.193 Outer Space-AMSAT W3IWI Tom Clark
-
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-
- Date: 10 Jul 1994 04:13:41 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: New IP Address when Moving?
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- I suggest you get a second address for your current location. We don't
- have any provision for mobile cross-subnet IP addresses in the AMPRNET
- yet.
- - Brian
-
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-
- Date: 10 Jul 1994 04:26:30 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: NTS traffic
- To: ham-digital@ucsd.edu
-
- The NTS is an obsolete system for transferring small bits of information
- in an inefficient way. It is primarily of interest to old-time hams.
- When the best method of communication was hand-sent Morse, the NTS had
- a reason to exist. It no longer does.
-
- In today's environment of cellular telephones, trunked radio systems
- with data screens, and nearly universal deployment of FAX machines,
- the NTS people could best serve their community by staying out of the
- way of real emergency personnel doing their jobs.
- - Brian
-
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- End of Ham-Digital Digest V94 #226
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